October 22nd, 2020

Evidence counters evolution


By Lethbridge Herald on June 15, 2017.

I believe in evolution for man-made things; look how cars and trucks change over the years, and phones to smartphones.
Two hundred years ago nobody had ever heard of the evolution theory, not until Charles Darwin came up with the idea that everything came into existence by itself if you give it millions or billions of years to evolve, include every plant, animal, bird and even man. Now it is being taught in schools as if it is the truth, as if there is solid proof it really happened that way.
Many findings like fossils and different layers in the earth and mountains, and coal and oil deposits can be traced back to a big natural flood disaster, not even that many thousands of years ago. Dinosaur bones have been found with still some soft tissue, supposedly 75 million years old; 4,400 years (from Noah’s flood) makes more sense.
Human bones found together with dinosaur bones and many other land and sea creatures can be found in fossil graveyards, like in the southern U.S. in the Ashley phosphate beds. It is proof that there must have been a catastrophic flood, and that man and dinosaurs lived and perished at the same time.
I like this one: live toads and frogs (in hibernation) found encased in limestone that is supposedly millions of years old.
Noah’s ark is where it is supposed to be, and has been on CNN years ago and in National Geographic news, proven according to the measurements. How does a 450-foot-long ship end up near the top of a mountain (Ararat), 4,000 metres above sea level? That is higher than the highest mountain in the Canadian Rockies, Mount Robson.
Do evolution believers really think that the human eye evolved or developed by itself?
John Van Liere
Coaldale

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Tony Pargeter

Such nonsense. Scientific investigation – the search for actual knowledge versus strained attempts to buttress mythology – has shown all of these claims to be untrue. [No one has found Noah’s ark, by the way, despite much searching and tentative claims of discovery that come to nothing.] Life as we know it today is the result of billions of years of blind and random evolution, well documented by science – “a massively parallel process of mindless, algorithmic design-trying, in which the minimal increments of design have been thriftily husbanded, copied and re-used – the incessant contributions of chance”. [Daniel Dennett]

Philip Bruce Heywood

Your “Chance” is a cool dude operator. In common parlance — take our pick. A fairy/spook. An idol. A vacuuity. No, don’t try the Casimir Effect. Virtual quantum particles don’t create overmuch. Especially whilst being seemingly absent. Trying to make people laugh?
Shall we hear from a quintessential, science based sceptic?
“Overwhelming strong proofs of intelligent and benevolent design lie around us.””I believe that the more thoroughly science is studied, the further does it take us from anything comparable to atheism.” “The more thoroughly I conduct scientific research, the more I believe that science excludes atheism.””The atheistic idea is so nonsensical that I do not see how I can put it in words.” “Do not be afraid of being free thinkers. If you think strongly enough you will be forced by science to the belief in God, which is the foundation of all religion. You will find science not antagonistic but helpful to religion.” William Thomson, alias, Kelvin.
No-one has found Noah’s ark. True. Science has as well as proved that Mankind went within an inch of extinction, way back (loss of genetic diversity compared to chimps, etc.) and our planet also experienced cometary encounters (evidence adduced from upper atmospheric effects observed after both Tunguska and a space shuttle launch — water vapour injection upper atmosphere.) The biblical narrative of Noah’s flood is a ‘dead ringer’ to a prolonged tidal surge over the Middle East. Such as would readily be caused by a cometary visit.

John P Nightingale

Good God. Van Liere’s at it again. (Third time in as many weeks.)
This is a simple regurgitation of the nonsense spewed by the writer and other members of his coven over the last several years.
Noah’s ark – a few pieces of wood on Mt Ararat and that is his evidence? An orang-utan could come up with a more plausible explanation.
The “proof” exists in the mind of the likes of Van Liere without any understanding of the real world – other that is what is written in the bible.
Believe the man made stories if you like, be inspired by them if you like, pray to your deity every day if you like but do not confuse scientific evidence – hard evidence corroborated multiple times , with the cherry picked and erroneous “facts” spewed forth in this useless and repetitive monologue.
So glad you like “live toads and frogs” in limestone John. One of the perpetrators of this totally false story was brought to the world by none other than Charles Dawson – he of Piltdown man fame. Perhaps Johny Boy believes the Piltdown story as well?

Tony Pargeter

Which “coven” is this? Hard to keep all these cults straight here….

John P Nightingale

OK by way of reply, I would suggest you look at the addresses of the various contributors to these columns emulating this illustrious and repetitive contributor (Mr Van Liere).

John P Nightingale

Fact Check: A “450 foot” boat , almost the length of an average city block, contains two of every living thing currently living on the planet? Wow. A special pen for the carnivores to protect the herbivores and a great big cage to house the birds – partitioned of course to prevent the nasty raptors from eating the warblers and finches. I guess the fish and stuff were OK though.
Face it John, with almost 10,000 bird species, over 5,400 mammals, 6,000 plus amphibians and over 8,000 reptiles , you “need a bigger boat.” (Last quote courtesy of Chief Brody “Jaws”)

blankman

While we’re at it, don’t forget refrigerated quarters for the polar bears, penguins, and other similar animals.

biff

1) darwin is wrongly referenced, yet again.
2) humans in 2000 bc nearly starved to death after the dinosaurs suddenly became extinct. there was much sadness, and even suicides, as people struggled to cope. many felt deep sorrow, given all the dinosaurs that noah took care to coax aboard the good ship unicorn just a thousand years or so prior.
3) point 2 can likely be referenced in the national enquirer as proof. also, the same edition headlined that a carrot binging pregnant woman gave birth to a rabbit-eared boy; and, sadly, another headline noted that a fire breathing man sneezed and accidentally burned down the carnival.

John P Nightingale

Fab “biff” simply “fab”!

Fescue

This may be just idle gossip, biff, but I understand that the good book says that the Unicorn brayed like a Scottish pipe band – that Noah pushed the unfortunate couple off the ship on the seventh day. Nonetheless, as my Coaldale besty told me, Mr. Van Lier yearns to ride a Unicorn through the pearly gates once his peepers are reopened on raptureday.

snoutspot4

Yet another missive from the pulpit that amounts to nothing more than creationist fundamentalist propaganda. Once again, the Herald editorial staff shows its bias by providing a steady conduit for these folks to publish their sermons. Apparently Van Liere is the most prolific contributor of late. The only surprise is that this is served up in advance of the usual Sunday morning rants about all things biblical.