October 21st, 2020

Pipeline delays are hardly Trudeau’s fault


By Letter to the Editor on December 3, 2019.

One of the benefits of living in Canada is the ability to air one’s thoughts publicly without serious repercussions. So it is that Ms. Skriver (Nov. 22 letter to the editor) can use these pages to enhance her views no matter her reasoning and conclusions which are, in my opinion, open to debate.

It may come as a surprise to the writer that the environment is high on the list of concerns for many Canadians. (Along with the economy, it is true.) Flawed environmental assessments have postponed pipeline expansion both here and in the U.S. Blaming Trudeau for all pipeline delays is simply inaccurate. One can understand why many states south of our border are skeptical of further expansion when witnessing, for example, the recent TC Keystone pipeline leakage in N Dakota – far more than originally indicated. Energy East was cancelled in 2017 because of Quebec and other parties objecting. Enbridge Line 3 is currently stalled in Minnesota as is their Line 5 upgrade in Michigan. These are hardly Trudeau’s fault.

Skriver takes him to task because of Bills 48 and 69 which recognize the value of protecting relative pristine waters and the land base. She does not seem to understand the importance of assessments on land and at sea. Tanker traffic is a risk; one only has to remember the Exxon Valdez and more recently the Queen of the North, the latter sinking near the proposed shipping route off the B.C. coast.

Responsible assessments are essential together with responsible development of future, albeit shorter-term projects. Trudeau realizes this – he bought a pipeline, for crying out loud. Treading a swinging tightrope is a delicate and difficult task, especially when, in the eyes of some such as the writer, he represents nothing of any consequence.

If ex-president Obama influenced the electorate as she suggested, then so be it. We also cannot dictate decisions south of our border, nor point fingers at our own for delays beyond their control.

We must work together provincially and federally, recognizing that oil extraction and subsequent transportation will occur at least for now, but do so in a manner respectful of the findings of detailed environmental reviews. The marine and land areas deserve nothing less!

John P. Nightingale

Lethbridge

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Dennis Bremner

So if I understand you correctly Mr Nightingdale you have, like the Liberals determined that the Ocean front in BC is more important then the East Coast, the whales are more important West then East and Traffic in General is more important West then East, is that correct? Saudii Oil is enviro friendly and Oilsands Oil is not?
Its not the bill specifically, its the specifics of the Bill, which obviously you do not get. Trudeau has done what Trudeau does, which is make one part of the country more important then the other, its what he does best, “which is to divide”.

John P Nightingale

No, you do not understand me correctly.
Did I say the west was more important than the east, or that the whales (from the west) are more important than those elsewhere?
Did I even compare the respective oil areas? Did I say “NO” to oil sands ?
NO on all counts. Ms Skriver’s letter referred to Bill 48 , which specially targeted the west coast , hence my referral to that area.
Have a nice day.

Dennis Bremner

You said: Skriver takes him to task because of Bills 48 and 69 which recognize the value of protecting relative pristine waters and the land base. (I assumed these were your words from here on in because you are referring to “she” as in Skriver. Correct me if wrong) She does not seem to understand the importance of assessments on land and at sea. You said:Tanker traffic is a risk; one only has to remember the Exxon Valdez and more recently the Queen of the North, the latter sinking near the proposed shipping route off the B.C. coast.

Which seemed to me you supported the Bill that is exclusively West Coast regulation without mentioning any sinkings or groundings in the St. Lawrence, and there has been many. ….am I still reading this wrong JP?

John P Nightingale

Good grief, I talked about the west coast because SHE (Skriver) addressed Bill 48 – a west coast initiative. Last time I looked that means the Pacific not the Atlantic.
Once again your interpretation is wrong but that is your MO .
Of course there are sinkings elsewhere but a sinking 3000 kms away in a different body of water is not exactly relevant to the discussion on hand.

h2ofield

“””Trudeau has done what Trudeau does, which is make one part of the country more important then the other, its what he does best, “which is to divide”.”””

Such a load of crap. What..because you say so? pffft.

Dennis Bremner

Its called opinion h2ofield. That is “my opinion” you obviously have an unsupported “one” yourself.

h2ofield

:::rolleyes:::

Fedup Conservative

Well said John. Every oilman, lawyer , accountant or banker we’ve talked to over the past few years would agree with you I had lunch with a retired oilman yesterday. These Reformers are great at twisting things around and blaming it all on Notley and Trudeau, and many of our fellow seniors are too dumb to see it. Now watch them come out to hurl their sarcastic comments you and me. The survey at that side proves how stupid they are, they see nothing wrong with what this mad man is doing to us, and have no idea how it’s going to effect them, and it’s these seniors who will feel it the most. My daughter has worked for the Alberta governments for 21 years and is certain she is going to lose her job, there are several seniors in our coffee group who Klein fired so you know what they think of these seniors supporting Kenney.

Fedup Conservative

Way to go Dennis for helping me prove my point. Maybe you should get up off your butt and start talking to some of our oilmen, lawyers, accountants, bankers and former MLAs to help you get your head out of the sand, it’s making you look rather stupid. Everyone I talk to points their finger right at the Klein, Stelmach and Redford government s for the mess we are in. Notley and Trudeau had nothing to do with it, and these people are true conservatives who are saying it. I was at a seniors Christmas Party yesterday with 76 seniors and they would call you a fool.

Dennis Bremner

Fedup. So its all Klein Stelmach and Redfords fault? Okay 2 of the 3 were before my time and from what I can gather 2 of the 3 are dead, in which case why not mention more dead people that people blame? I came here in July 2011 when Redford was on the campaign trail, she was sworn in October 7, 2011. So what you are telling me is all of your “friends live in the past” just like you are…okay, but not sure I get your point lol

Fedup Conservative

Dennis we aren’t dumb enough to forget what these guys did to us and we aren’t about to let the fools who helped them create it by blindly supporting them forget it either. I will never forget the nurses bawling their eyes out in my office when Klein destroyed their careers, or my senior friends suffering in severe pain waiting for months on end for medical procedures to be done thanks to what Klein did to us. We lost 14, 783 people out of our health care system we were told and Kenney’s trying to do it again. Before Klein destroyed our health care system I had a hernia problem and it only took about a month to get it fixed, after Klein destroyed us I had to wait an extremely painful 11 months for the same sort of hernia repair. Doctors told me that it was an extremely bad one and an extremely dangerous one but they couldn’t help me any sooner thanks to what Klein had done. Our family paid $10,600 per month for five years for a bed in a nursing home for a loved one because there was a waiting list of 1,800 patients for beds in the public system we had to take private for profit one, could you afford that? Another family tells us they paid $14,000 and we are suppose to forgive and forget don’t be stupid.